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PENZILLA

Master Don Juan
posted 10-19-2001 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PENZILLA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read the book titled "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene

It's a counterpart of the DJ Bible and it's a pretty good book that would enlighthen you!


-Penzilla

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Cramias

Don Juan
posted 10-21-2001 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cramias     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to add my agreement. I picked up this book on Friday and read part of it this weekend. So far it is excellent. The author studied famous seductionists from history (Casanova, Don Juan, Maquis de Sade, etc) and distilled out principles of seduction from what they did. Awesome book.

This guy's other book is also worth reading. Look for "48 Laws of Power." Probably a good twin buy.

Chris

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lordclem*

Master Don Juan
posted 10-23-2001 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lordclem*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep from what i have heard those book are worth geting.there is ome book i would like to know if anyone read 'the machiavellia guide to picking up women'
if you have have tell us whats it like

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stockholder

Master Don Juan
posted 10-24-2001 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stockholder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Marquis de Sade (or whatever) was fictitious (I mean made up.) Don Juan is also made up just like Sherlock Holmes and James Bond.

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stockholder

Master Don Juan
posted 10-24-2001 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stockholder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Casanova was a bisexual (nothing wrong with that but if you consider how many men want to be Casanova; that's alarming.)

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nautica34342

Don Juan
posted 11-01-2001 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautica34342     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great book on seduction just got it must read for don juans

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Don the Legend

Master Don Juan
posted 11-02-2001 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don the Legend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought it last week. I will edit this post with my review when I finish.

Legend

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improvinmygame

Don Juan
posted 11-03-2001 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for improvinmygame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw it at Barnes and Noble recently and thumbed through it. I thought it looked like a good book but wasn't really sure. Thanks for sharing with us that its a must read.

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T Dog

Master Don Juan
posted 02-28-2002 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah. This book is the freakin' BOMB! Between this sight and the Art of Seducation, there is no girl you can't get!

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DarkDream

Master Don Juan
posted 03-01-2002 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read the "Art of Seduction" over Christmas in England.

The only problem I had with the book is that it relied on a lot of historical (and often fictional people). I am convinced that the historical context is what made a lot of the seducers possible.

Remember, that Casanova, Don Juan and so on lived in a time where a lot of marriages were arranged and a lot of the women were surpressed and were married to passionless men in a class conscious, overly ritualized society.

The seducers just made the woman respond emotionally, created adventure and usually got them. It almost appears that the married women were easier to seduce.

In the real world today where woman have a hell of a lot more power and choice makes dating and seducing a *lot* more difficult.

Why Casanova was so good is that he was able to find out what a particular lady really wanted (what was missing in her life), and he would then fill that missing piece. I would love to be able to have that skill of finding out what a particular woman wants. If I could do that, I would be miles ahead of the game.

--DD

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MrValmont

Don Juan
posted 03-16-2002 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrValmont     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the book and it is great it teaches everything u need 2 know in being a true DJ

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Wise

Don Juan
posted 03-17-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's coming in, not bad of a book at all

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JUST ME

Master Don Juan
posted 03-17-2002 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUST ME     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does gio know casanova was bisexual?-lmoa

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JUST ME

Master Don Juan
posted 03-17-2002 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUST ME     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i mean lmao

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lynx

Don Juan
posted 04-10-2002 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stockholder:
Casanova was a bisexual (nothing wrong with that but if you consider how many men want to be Casanova; that's alarming.)

As for Casanova being bisexual, that's a misconception. The guy was straight as hell. Read his memoirs. I've read his memoirs twice and there's no instance in which he mentions being with men or being attracted to men. Casanova was truly a larger-than-life man. Among his accomplishments: besides speaking his native language (Italian), he also knew French and Latin; he was a skilled fencer (a skill which saved his life more than once in his adventurous and dangerous life); he escaped from prison in one of the most amazing escapes ever (think of the Count of Monte Cristo); moreover, he had the confidence of a gutsy and fearless man like James Bond. I highly recommend the memoirs to all aspiring Don Juans.

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Page

Master Don Juan
posted 04-11-2002 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Page     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lynx:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stockholder:
[b]Casanova was a bisexual (nothing wrong with that but if you consider how many men want to be Casanova; that's alarming.)


As for Casanova being bisexual, that's a misconception. The guy was straight as hell. Read his memoirs. I've read his memoirs twice and there's no instance in which he mentions being with men or being attracted to men. Casanova was truly a larger-than-life man. Among his accomplishments: besides speaking his native language (Italian), he also knew French and Latin; he was a skilled fencer (a skill which saved his life more than once in his adventurous and dangerous life); he escaped from prison in one of the most amazing escapes ever (think of the Count of Monte Cristo); moreover, he had the confidence of a gutsy and fearless man like James Bond. I highly recommend the memoirs to all aspiring Don Juans.[/B][/QUOTE]

Where can I find the memoirs at?

Also, if he's straight, then why is he Bi? Doesn't make sense. He's either straight or he's not.

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lynx

Don Juan
posted 04-12-2002 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Page:
Where can I find the memoirs at?

Also, if he's straight, then why is he Bi? Doesn't make sense. He's either straight or he's not.



As I already pointed out, Casanova was straight, not bisexual. Read the memoirs as well as biographies of Casanova written by other authors. If you want to read the Memoirs, I suggest you go to the main public library in your city and look them up. I read the translation by Arthur Machen (I think that's his name), but there's a new translation that you can find in bookstores or some public libraries (very expensive because it contains about 7 volumes). Look up the memoirs under "Casanova, Giacomo" or simply under "Casanova". You won't be disappointed. I don't know where you heard Casanova was bisexual, but in my reading of his own memoirs and several biographies about him, there's no evidence that he was attracted to men at all. Have fun reading.

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Big Mack

Don Juan
posted 08-26-2002 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Mack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I picked up the book "Art of Seduction" right after I found out that the author was Robert Greene.

I have both of his book
"48 Laws of Power "and
"Art of Seduction"

"Art of Seduction" is really a great book to read it tell you how to seduce and give you a old school story of how the seduction is taken place and he explains to you how you can do it on your own.

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KCFlyer

Master Don Juan
posted 08-26-2002 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KCFlyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read the book you are refering to, and I recommend it. There is a lot of valuable resources there.

But I was disappointed with a few things. There are a number of success stories written in the book. This is fine, as they illustrate the topics that are presented. My problem with some of those stories is that what you do with women is more about timing and reading what they want than following a game plan.

One success story involves one of the famous lovers locking himself in a stairway, and living only to meet his lover. I view this as totally AFC, but under very specific circumstances, this might work.

Overall the book is insightful, but not quite as down to earth as I would have liked.

In addition to the success stories, I would have liked to have seen failure stories, where the author shows how people have misused the tactics.

You can arm yourself with all kinds of womanizing tactics, but your an AFC if you don't know when and how to use them.

I'm not bashing the book. It's good reading, in addition to the DJ bible.

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SeldomSeen

Don Juan
posted 08-26-2002 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SeldomSeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I'm reading it now. I have nothing but praise for this book. How about the Salome chick? She cause some men to commit suicide because she was so unattainable.
This book is number one on my list man.

"When you can't beat em...act like you dont want them"

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Princess-Spock

Master Don Juan
posted 08-26-2002 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess-Spock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the commentary included in her brilliant book "Cry to Heaven" ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345396936/ qid=1030400789/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-2876928-7861702?s=books ), Anne Rice quotes Casanova's account of having gone to the opera and being smitten by a beautiful singer, only to discover later that the lovely lady was in fact a MAN, specifically a "castrato." (The castrati were males that had been castrated as boys to keep their voices from changing, thus allowing them to keep their stunning sopranos and play the women's parts in operas. http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/ent/A0810793.html ) This honest and understandable mistake does NOT make him bisexual, but might be the source of that rumor.


The Marquis de Sade WAS an actual person ( http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0158693.html ).

James Bond and Sherlock Holmes are NOT real people, but they WERE both based to a degree on the lives and talents of the men who created them.

Don Juan was of course NOT a real person, but like most legends had aspects of a variety of real people incorporated into his "story"; he's a composite of the exploits of MANY similar-minded men, just as the Robin Hood legend is.


Characters endure and are beloved over the years because they "ring true" to us, and often have qualities we admire and would like to emulate. It's silly to slavishly copy the behaviors of a fictional character (for the obvious reasons), but you can certainly do worse than to model yourself somewhat after a character you admire.

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[This message has been edited by Princess-Spock (edited 08-26-2002).]

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MrMetropolis

Don Juan
posted 12-03-2002 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMetropolis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.blackmask.com/page.php?do=page&cat_id=246


So you don't have to pay for the freakin book....

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