posted 09-11-2001 04:22 AM            

Be a prick one day this week. One of the biggest things a nice guy (read a guy not getting any play) has to get over is this fear of losing people's approval.

I'm not saying you go and curse girls out or do anything that will get you arrested, but just be a little pushy and arrogant. You'll be amazed at the response you get. If a girl gets all offended at your behavior just tell her to go to hell and walk away. This is best done someplace where you really dont give a damn if you get a bad rep there or get told to get out. A good place is a smallish restaraunt since there are prolly hundreds just like it in your city. Here are the rules of thumb that I go by when I do this:

1) never say please or thank you.
2) never say hello or goodbye.
3) approach women that you are not even interested in and have no intention of calling back even if you get their number.
4) if you are turned down or insulted don't let it go without sending back a zinger or two.
5) HAVE FUN with it. when you get back to your car after hitting a place you ought to be just about laughing your ass off. they probobly will be too. Probobly it will be the most interesting thing that happened that whole week for whoever you do this to.

by the end of the day (or a couple of hours or whatever) you will have been rejected rudely by women a few times. If you follow my rules any woman that ignores or rejects you will get an earful back.

After you see that your life has not crumbled down around you, its the same type of feeling like when you stood up to that schoolyard bully and howed him you weren't gonna take his sh** any more. You will look at women in a whole different way.

don't beleive me? Try it. Just remember, you arn't trying to get into a fight. If she rejects or ignores say something rude and leave. If she is back there still yelling **** after you just ignore her.

Ever since I tried this one day I have almost no fear of rejection when I approach in a 'normal' non-jerk manner. I know that if she rejects she better be nice about it and use good manners cause if not I'ma put a verbal hurtin on her and walk the hell away laughing my ass off.

Here is an example.
(really pretty, but snotty-looking teenage girl sweeping the floor in a Mc Donalds)

posted 09-11-2001 02:34 PM            

i've done this. Maybe not intentionally, but i have a pact w/ myself that I won't put up w/ bullsh*t if I can help it.

Example woman in my building who won't return greetings & doesn't hold elevator for me. I shut the elevator before she gets there and she sees it.

Customer serv rep who was rude. Call her/his boss.

CAshier @ dept store who doesn't know which item i'm returning on receipt. "Do you think I'd actually admit to returning the less expensive item if that wasn't true???" Said loudly so that people in line noticed. Sheesh.

MInd you, i don't do it gratuitously. But i do it if I think they need it. It's liberating to 'school' them on how they should treat me.

Helps to know I can f*ck w/ 'em if they should choose to f*ck w/ me.

knowing you're no one's bathmat is helpful when approaching the chicks.

posted 09-13-2001 08:46 AM            

Focusing on getting reactions from others removes focus from yourself. For example, my friend who is engaged (i.e., could care less about picking up another woman)came to town about a month ago and we decided to go to Yesterday�s to play pool. My friend spots one of the waitresses sweeping underneath some pool tables and goes up to her telling her, �You know it sucks to be you. Here I am drinking a beer, smoking a cigar, playing pool, and having a good time and there you are sweeping the floor!� The waitress gave him a great big grin over that comment. To another girl we met he told her why he liked tall girls. He said, �Yeah that�s what I like about tall girls, they�ve got legs all the way up to their ass!� Then he pointed out the fact that she fit this category perfectly.

I think this is a great example of trying to get reactions by being creative and playful; ofcourse, I think I've went off on a tangent, sorry about that.

At any rate I believe getting reactions the harmless way is a MUCH better than acting upset without just cause. This way no one gets hurt unless they deserve it.

CobraGT

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posted 09-13-2001 03:23 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by BigBill:

Me: (really rude and sarcastic) You missed a spot.
Her: (Evil look then keeps sweeping)
Me: don't look at me like that. It's not my fault you can't sweep a floor right.
Her: **** off!
Me: (getting up and starting to walk out) How original, mind if I use it later? No wonder this place is so dirty with you working here.
Her: (standing there holding her broom looking like if I just spit on the Mona Lisa)
Me: LMAO in my car.

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Nice rips man. You left her dumbfounded.

I have to remember that next time I get dissed.

Good Luck,

Legend

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posted 09-13-2001 11:56 PM            

cobra, actually, i'm not implying any of the things you said. I'm implying what I said.

Here is why what you are saying destroys the whole usefullness of the idea:

We are conditioned in this world to be polite, kind, respectful, tolerent, humble, quiet, unassuming, kind, generous, unselfish, trustworthy, and loyal.

In other words, we are trained to be nice to the point of wussiness.

At the core of this system is the beleif that the worst thing in the world that could ever possibly happen is for us to do or say something that hurts someone elses little feelings. This would lead to the losing of their acceptance. To the wuss, its better to just smile and eat the food you paid for that wasn't made the way you ordered it, than to risk losing the approval of the waitress by sending it back.

you see? Approval of all people becomes the highest goal in life. for this same reason, the Wuss will never get laid because the idea of misinterpreting a sign and losing the approval of some girl he's dating is so horrifying, that he would rather lose the chance to get laid, than risk having the girl be uncomfortable.

Once the guy gets beyond this he realizes that he may lose the 'approval' of many girls in the course of his dating. but he realizes that it's better to have 19 girls disapprove of him and one having sex with him, than it is to have 100 girls approve of him while none of them are havig sex with him.

posted 09-14-2001 02:10 AM            

Ultimately though I realize I can't judge this concept fairly until I've tried it. Like I tell my non-drinking friend, "You can't say 'beer tastes bad' unless you've tasted it, then and only then can you describe how beer tastes."

posted 09-15-2001 07:57 PM            

You are both right, but I think your methods apply to different situations.
Baggin' on chicks or giving neg hits will work, sometimes. Being nice to women upon meeting them will work--sometimes. I think Cobra's approach of a more flattering opening line may work better when signs show you are in there before you even make contact. However, being the author of the S**t Theory (Tips Section), I have to agree with throwing a little spite or neg hit in there, especially to check a broad who is getting a little out-of-line. There are so many secret intentions in a woman's mind that I have come to believe after so many years of dating, having live-in relationships and one-night-stands as well that it is our duty to check them, because they are the goal but if we over value what they have then they will raise the price of that commodity.

Short version: Let them know they are the goal and they will dawg you. The price will go up and up until the "market" cannot bear it, i.e. when they lose their looks, body, pop a few pups, or appear "well-used". Then the price becomes affordable to the "common man".

Or picture an auction. The price starts out at xx-dollars. Slowly the price raises, then starts raising with higher and higher bids. When the price gets far beyond the value of the item being bidded on, suddenly the auction is called off. "Changed my mind"--the woman's perogative. Some poor sap doesn't get what he invested so much hope and money into, while a woman practices what society tells us now adays is well within her rights and dawgs a fellow man.

posted 02-13-2002 03:31 PM            

I would stop short of being really verbally abusive, but there's nothing wrong with what Big Bill's saying. And I've tried it, and it's amazing what it does for changing a woman's opinion of you. One girl really started respecting me more after I got a little smartass with her. It was a blast. I need to do this more often.