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Kotrin

Don Juan
posted 08-21-2001 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kotrin   Click Here to Email Kotrin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone heard The Treatment a number of times : "let's just be friends".

It's hard to hear because women have no idea of the guts it takes to ask them out. They put men off this way, which can hide several meanings that can be translated more or less in the following :

"I'm not interested in you but I appreciate the way you court me and I would like you to continue."

Most of the time they do not intend to become our friends because friendship is something that require an exchange. Easy to test : accept and ask anything in return (even a phone call "you call me next time"), you'll never get it. They just want to suck you for more attention.
Then, friendship is something that happens, not something planned. Did you ever said to your friends in older times that you PLANNED to become friends with them ?

Any woman using this line does not deserve to become a friend of mine. Because she does not plan to become a friend. Because she relies on my feelings to get my attention while not caring for me nor providing anything in return. Because she lies, because she tries to manipulate me, because she think I am not man enough to handle the truth or too shy to tell it. Like telling me bull**** was not hurting my feelings.

Therefore, I refuse. When I hear those words and recognize them for what they mean, I usually stare and smile for a couple of seconds and reply "Thanks, but I already have plenty." (which is true). Then I wish goodbye and walk away.

Bear in mind that if you receive The Treatment you ALREADY LOST. There is nothing left to save. Yet many men sadly accept the deal in a foolish hope to turn it later into something more, or to keep within reach the target of their shattered feelings. Some of them are even cynical enough to think that the lady will connect them with her female friends - be sure then that prior to this unlikely meeting the "friend" will be presented as a lame looser wimp.

At least if you refuse, you'll recover most of the proudness lost in rejection, and you will act like a man, able to handle. Don't be rude, don't yell, just refuse, politely. It will bring you respect and a clean cut.

Kotrin

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Kane

Master Don Juan
posted 08-21-2001 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to add to Kotrins comments. Unless you REALLY TRULY ARE ok with being friends (that means without the expectation that it'll turn into something more), take the hint and move on.

Kane

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sosuave.com

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posted 08-21-2001 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sosuave.com   Click Here to Email sosuave.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Tips forum.

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lc

Master Don Juan
posted 08-22-2001 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LJBF. Is there a more dishonest line in the universe that is as geared to fleece the listener and aggrandize the speaker..................?

I think not. Least not in a non-election year.

lc

IP: 63.211.244.44

Gaming111

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posted 08-22-2001 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I get the LJBF (or anything similar to it, for that matter) I say: "Do guys still fall for that line?" Then walk away. It's a shocker, and even if it doesn't get your chances back up, it sure can't hurt.

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PortugueseMeatball

Master Don Juan
posted 08-22-2001 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PortugueseMeatball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I had a lady give me the LJBF Treatment when I asked her to be my girlfriend. She added: "Let's make everything the way it was before, OK?" I replied, "Good, let's forget this ever happened." Her answer: "No, no. We'll make everything back to the way it was."

I was such a SUCKER!!! I still followed her like a sick, hurt, mommyless poor little puppy. I'd be so surprised if she still has any hint of respect for me.

So I'd like to add this. Some girls still think that the LJBF is too harsh for the little sick, hurt, mommyless poor little puppies, Average Frustrated Chumps (AFCs). So they might add a line like that: "Everything will remain as it was, OK?" Believe it, people: it doesn't because she allready knows about your feelings for her. She already saw you giving your heart to her and she already pushed it into the shredder and saw it come out like a disgusting hamburger from hell. It will never be as it was.

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Neophyte

Master Don Juan
posted 09-06-2001 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neophyte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump * DJB material?

thnx,
-Neo

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Poosy Marauder

Don Juan
posted 09-08-2001 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poosy Marauder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Meatball summarised it beautifully.
Do yourself a favour. Cut your losses, break off contact and let time heal your wounds.
You can't recover from LJBF. I've tried.

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Paradox

Moderator
posted 09-08-2001 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paradox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Neo this is DJB material.

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bondjamesbond

Don Juan
posted 09-08-2001 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bondjamesbond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LJBF is the most polite way of a girl telling you that she wishes you'd just get lost.....

>>>BJB

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Shiftkey

Master Don Juan
posted 09-09-2001 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shiftkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girls don't say "lets just be friends" to be easier on US. They say it so things are easier on THEM. Too many girls are affraid that they will be concidered impolite.

Not only are they too affraid to approach, they are too affraid to end things. This is just another reason why we are superior to them

IP: 216.249.91.151

Sting

Master Don Juan
posted 09-09-2001 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shiftkey:
Girls don't say "lets just be friends" to be easier on US. They say it so things are easier on THEM. Too many girls are affraid that they will be concidered impolite.

Not only are they too afraid to approach, they are too affraid to end things. This is just another reason why we are superior to them


I agree wholeheartedly. Most of the things women do in dealing with men are for selfish purposes. Unfortunately, women don't consciously realize this fact. Indeed, it is rare for women to take responsibility for their choices. On the other hand, it's pretty rare for men to do the same. But when they do, that is when a meaningful relationship is possible.

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gwendolyn

Don Juan
posted 09-09-2001 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gwendolyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to disappoint to boys, but mr. bond is correct. If we really told most of you that we did not want to see you anymore then you would beg and plead for us to reconsider, which really makes us uncomfortable. I have had to tell a few guys this very thing over the years because I know his ego cannot take the truth. We are not afraid to end things. We are just sometimes afraid of your reaction to our wanting to end things.

I have approached several men. I wasn't afraid. They always seemed flattered that I showed interest. Many women are much more shy than you think, especially when we find a guy attractive. We want to make a good impression also.

I like a strong, self confident man who isn't afraid to go after what he wants. Too bad more of you aren't that way!
Bye now,
Gwen


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Sting

Master Don Juan
posted 09-09-2001 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sting     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like a strong, self confident man who isn't afraid to go after what he wants. Too bad more of you aren't that way!
Bye now,
Gwen

Hmmm... My first reaction when I read the foregoing was, wow, were we just insulted? Then I realized Gwen was probably trying to say that the kind of guy she is looking for will never have to face a LJBF situation.

Put simply, women wont't use the LJBF line if guys don't force them to use it.

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[This message has been edited by Sting (edited 09-09-2001).]

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