posted 08-20-2001 10:32 PM            

Some of the stuff I'm seeing is quite sad.....I feel bad knowing that so many young guys (or guys of any age) are having so much trouble with such a simple thing as meeting women. I guess I didn't realize what a problem it is for so many. Since I can no longer "spread my seeds" amongst the willing females of this earth, I can at least spread the word of how to best go about doing it.

The biggest obstacle most of you fellows are are facing is fear.

Of what, I have no idea!

Maybe because we are constantly hearing about how women want to be treated as equals it's causing some of you to be afraid of offending them. Perhaps some of you grew up very close to your mother(s) and think every woman you ever see should be treated the same. Maybe you think women are "delicate" little creatures that feel sex is filthy and degrading; that they all have a halo over their heads, that they're angels.

Maybe you're afraid of yourself, of getting depressed after you get rejected, and feeling certain that nothing will ever change.

I don't really know. But I do know this. Fear can paralyze you. It can protect you, yes, but it also keeps you from living your life to the fullest.

A great many people don't die. They simply cease to exsist. To die, you must first live. I kinda hate to say this, but some of you guys aren't living. You're just existing.

Some of the junk I've been reading here,ie., "Play hard to get to attract more women", "Be a mystery", "how to know she likes you",etc.,...is nothing more than your own insecurities coming into play.

I never played "hard to get" in my life. No woman that I ever hit on found anything very mysterious about me.....I'm certain they knew what I was after within seconds after meeting them, unless they were retarded.

I'm a guy. And what I always wanted from a woman was sex. To screw. Bang. As often as possible. And with as many as possible.

I didn't want companionship. I didn't want a friend. I wanted to f**k. And to do that, I needed a woman.

Women come in very handy for that.

Wanna know a little secret? It's all they want too.

Wanna know something else?

They're better at it (f**king, that is) than we are. They can do it all day, if they desire. We can't.
It's because they're so damned good at it that they're constanly looking for a "stud" lover. When they do find him (if ever) they will do ANYTHING for him.

Women just need to see a guy use a little finesse. They need to get to know him just a bit before they spread those legs.

Men are different. Most of us couldn't care less if a chick is wanted for murder in four states if she looks hot. We're ready to do it, right now, yesterday!

The best advice I can possibly give you guys is this:

Never, never, NEVER, apologize for your desires as a MAN. The good lord gave you that schlong between your legs for more than just peeing.......

For crying out loud stop being afraid of offending every chick you see. There's a huge difference between going up to a girl you don't know and saying "Hey, let's f**K!" as opposed to simply smiling, saying "Hi", getting a smile back, and then approaching her and introducing yourself.

Start smiling and making some direct eye contact, for Christsakes! Is it so very hard? If she doesn't return your smile maybe she's just a stuck-up b**ch or whatever. Forget it.

Don't let the "I've got a boyfriend" crap deter you so quickly. Be a little persistent! When a girl used to tell me that, I always said "I don't want to go out with your boyfriend, I want to see you!"

If a guy comes up while you're talking to her, ask him for a coin......Take it and toss it about fifty feet or so and say "Fetch!"....

Start having some balls. Rid yourself of all those useless fears.

If some chick rejects you, and she isn't married, she's just stupid and doesn't realize what a great f**k you'd be. Don't take it so personal, they can't help it that they're stupid.

If some chick you've been seeing for awhile starts screwing you around, don't obsess about her like some wierdo stalker. Stop being so afraid you'll never meet anybody else. Dump her *ss in the gutter and let the moron she thinks she's in love with deal with her. You don't need this crap in your life. It interferes with getting f**cked. Always remember, when you get f**cked, it should feel good!

Guys, confidence comes from within, not from without.

Start going for it! Hell, what have you got to lose?

The Holy Bible says "Rejoice, young man, in thy youth".......

You're not gonna be young forever, guys.....

Best Wishes and go get them babes, (I wish I could go with you!)

posted 08-21-2001 02:06 AM            

RAMBO - DANJER rulles all mother ****ers.

posted 08-21-2001 04:51 AM            

I think maybe in a couple of years from now, the 90's and 00's (?) will be looked back on as the wonder years for many men. Women tell us they are in need of sensitive men and men believe it. Then when the men turn sensitive, they're being used to spill all their bf trouble crap on.

Thing is: I've told some female friends of mine about this site and the speedseduction site without telling them where they could find it -men only I told them- and they both totally disagreed with the things I learned here. In fact: I had arguements about it with them. They weren't ****material to begin with anyway.

posted 08-21-2001 07:47 AM            

How do I know? I'm raising a daughter.....I know what her mother tells her.

Forget about all the "independence" junk also......What they all really want is to be banged. Hard and often.

The only time I ever asked any girl for advice was when I went clothes shopping at the mall. I would look for a hot looking salesgirl to help pick what looked best on me. I'm sure you know what else I had on my mind.

Some guys know all this simple stuff, but they become a creep.....can't take "no" for an answer, always calling or coming around. They've somehow convinced themselves that if they "Just say that right thing" that a chick will fall at their feet.

A real man knows when to walk away and stop wasting time. The idiot will drum up a hundred reasons in his head why a chick is acting cold towards him but will never accept the bottom line: She doesn't want to f**k with you.

Before you get to bang one of them, you have to get used to the routine. They just want to get to know you and don't want to come across as too horny. They're all afraid of being thought of as a slut.

I don't want to sound like I was "God's gift to women" or some nonsense like that, but I never, and I mean never, was dumped by a chick once I had started screwing her. I did it right. Alot of guys do it, give them a kiss, then go turn on the TV to watch NASCAR or the NFL.

Learn to do it right and you'll have them eating out of your hands. It can be damn hard to get rid of them. If you guys think it's hard to meet them, just wait till you want to dump one that has fallen in love with you. It can be scary as hell!

Don't pay any attention to all their BS......just be a man, things will change for you soon enough!

posted 08-21-2001 10:57 AM            

Great post man. Very well said.

Somehow you seem to simplify things what shouldn't be that diffucult for us DJ's. Yet we seem to think too much and not act.

Thanks for the inspirational post!

Legend

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"I have always believed that when a man gets it into his head to do something, and when he exclusively occupies himself in that design, he must succeed, whatever the difficulties. That man will become Grand Vizier or Pope"..... Casanova

posted 08-21-2001 02:58 PM            

Try this------go up to any strange chick and tell them you'd like to be friends.....and that you're a celibate! I'll let you guess how interested they'll be in you!

Perhaps without meaning to, you've confirmed what I said earlier about a woman not "dumping" you if the sex is great....."WE wanted different things from life"........That sounds like a far cry from getting "dumped", sounds like more of a mutual agreement to me. I didn't say that you will have a life-long relationship with them,ie., never split up,.. I only said that I was never dumped by a chick for somebody else. It was always me who did it or it was a mutual thing.

Neophyte: I respect you a great deal also....I've read several of your posts and they're very concise and thoughtful, as well as written with great clarity. But ask yourself this---Why do girls spend so much time trying to look as gorgeous as they can? To impress their Grandmother? Not hardly. They're hoping they can attract a STUD LOVER.......not to get to know a man so they can sit and discuss the geo-political significance of Africa.

Remember what they want guys, it's essentially the same thing as us......

posted 08-22-2001 10:55 AM            

...attention! Even girls with a boyfriend do want so: they love attention. But you are right, they also want to attract hot boys. So attraction would be "attention's" companion.

marknola: right!

posted 08-22-2001 12:12 PM            

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Learn to do it right and you'll have them eating out of your hands. It can be damn hard to get rid of them. If you guys think it's hard to meet them, just wait till you want to dump one that has fallen in love with you. It can be scary as hell!
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Bond is right. This is SOOOO true! My ex from TWO YEARS ago STILL calls me... and every once in awhile requests another "session".

posted 08-24-2001 04:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Josh:
... girls being so damn independant doesn't help either.

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It's called "evolution". Guys, you've to learn to adapt, find new ways to get to the girl you're dreaming about... You've to use your brains if you want to help your balls.

The problem is because girls are becoming more independent from men, we aren't doing the same. A few decades ago, the future of a woman was to get married, have lots of children and not complain. Men had the security of knowing that if they had good financial security, they could walk up to the girl's father and "buy" her daughter. Any woman trying to go against this would be considered an outcast. You've to agree nobody likes to be on this situation. If it were the opposite and women ruled over men, we'd be very annoyed as well, I guess.

So since things have changed, we have to adapt to the new situation, we've to evolve. IMHO, this Forum is doing a fine job directing young (and occasionally the not-so-young) in the right evolution path. We're being taught to not let our hearts fall in the schredder.

posted 08-30-2001 09:52 PM            

I too have a daughter (the apple of my eye), and by simply listening to her, I've realized that even at 16 years old they are indeed preconditioned on the tools in handling males.

In reading some of your posts it's apparent your wisdom comes from age and experience. A great mixture.

There are a number of great posts that I've seen on this site (Pook, Neophypte, Maranathman, et.al. forgive me folks for those I didn't mention).

Your posts, like the aforementioned, are quickly being regarded as offering up some of the most insightful and sage advice that I've read.

Again, age, wisdom and experience are a great tool to have.

Thanks

posted 09-05-2001 09:21 PM            

I'm pretty sure that you and I are approaching the context of what I said about "insecurities" from two different angles.....I expressed what I think is the biggest obstacle for alot of, if not most of, the guys reading these posts; that is to say, that needless fear is blocking so many of them from APPROACHING women initially. I'm certain you'd agree that there is a huge difference.

Keeping a women (if you want to) is an altogether different matter from going out and attempting contact, etc.,......I had read several posts to the effect that to get a woman's attention initially you should be a "mysterious, hard to get, aloof sort of guy".......I think any guy with this attitude will spend many, many nights with his penis in his hand. Kinda like going fishing in your bathtub; you can do it, but you won't catch anything.

Once you've made good contact and are interested in developing something long term with a chick then I strongly believe that the "mystery" part has to kick in. There really is no other way. You spill your guts out, they're gonna treat you like a schmuck!

There is no doubt in my mind that I was seen as a challenge by many of the women I've known. You know why? Because they all knew that I had, or could easily get, somebody else.

The greatest confidence builder in the world for a guy is to be seeing/banging multiple chicks. It's like having alot of money in the bank. It's the lack of this that causes so many guys to behave so pathetic when they do find a chick to go out with. They make her a rare commodity, kiss her @ss, do favors, buy gifts, etc.,....only to be cast aside later like so much leftover garbage.

Before I met my wife, I never had a LTR.....I didn't want one, hell, I never even refered to any of them as my "girlfriend"........The only women I've ever been friends with were all much, much older than me (like my mothers age) or someone I had no sexual interest in whatsoever. I've always felt that men make better friends.

There is really nothing else I could possibly add to what you've said about "coming on too strong" once a "relationship" has begun.....you've summed it up as close to perfect as can be.

I don't think we're in disagreement Doc, we're just talking about different stages.......

Best Wishes>>>BJB