posted 07-09-2000 08:09 PM            

I am a Don Juan. I promise on my honor I will never call a girl in less than four days.
I assure my fellow Don Juans I will always faithfully ask for the number and will never walkaway from a girl without it.

I will always be loyal to the Law of Interest. I will make sure she is really interested. She will give me a decisive 'yes' when I ask her out. I will accept NO LESS from her.

I promise with the greatest sincerity I will never go back with an EX. No matter how much she begs me.

I will accept full responsibility for getting myself in the 'Friend Zone' because I talked too much on the phone and waited seven months to ask her out.

I pledge to never reveal the true me for the first two months and give her only bits and pieces about my self. The Law of Mystery forbids it.

I am a Don Juan. I do not stay in bad relationships. I do not date women who give me alot of trouble.

I am a Don Juan. That's why I am happy.

posted 07-09-2000 09:43 PM               

Commments welcome.

posted 07-10-2000 12:27 AM            

I'm trying to get the mystery thing down, but I don't think I'm doing it right. I don't give out much info about myself(how I really am) unless they ask me and even then I try to give vague answers.

posted 07-10-2000 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Vassago:
I think all of these are EXCELLENT points, but the four days thing kills me. EVERYONE waits a few days now. I believe it is of UTMOST importence to seperate yourself from other guys.

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posted 07-10-2000 06:19 AM               

you take full responsability for getting in the friendszone.. I like it that you take the responsability, but there are some very fine women out there who strongly believe you have to be friends first and only then advance!

but I find those things a very good guide, sometimes you just have to play things as they unfold.. that's life :-D

posted 07-10-2000 10:47 AM               

I MAKE NO EXCUSES FOR MY DESIRES AS A MAN. I LIKE TO FUC* WOMEN. end of story......

posted 07-10-2000 02:17 PM               

"Dont get me wrong, the pledge of honor was nice"

posted 07-10-2000 09:23 PM               

I fully accept that pledge AD. Vassago, you should not call so early. [/QUOTE]

posted 07-10-2000 09:49 PM               

Good pledge.

posted 07-10-2000 10:01 PM            

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Originally posted by terminator911:
If you call the next day, it will make you look desperate... that's just my opinion.

Good pledge.

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Of course. You are telling the woman you have no other girls in your life.
That you are a lonely guy and that you have no LIFE! She must wonder if she will be the one you ask out next week. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND COMPARE HER TO OTHER WOMEN and make a decision. That's what she must think.

posted 07-10-2000 10:15 PM               

++++Lets not get into a huge discussion (I bet you are surprised to here that from me eh?), but this is not the case with me. When women meet me, they can tell by talking to me that Im not desperate and that I do well with women. If I get a girls #, its because I like them and I want to see them again. They know it and I know it. I dont have to wait to call because I have already proven to them that Im not desperate by the way I act when we meet. Think about it...Have you ever met a guy and just known that he must pull a ton of girls? Its all about the presence you set. When I call the next day, she doesnt say to herself, "This is a desperate man", she says to herself, "This is a man of action. He has no time for bull**** games because he knows what he wants and goes for it." This also discourages them from playing games with you, and that's always nice!

This is a field tested technique but the only reason it works is because deep down inside Im not desperate and Im not needy, so I dont have to fake it. Im not the guy who PRETENDS no to be desperate, I AM the guy who ISNT desperate. Big difference.

posted 07-10-2000 10:45 PM               

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Originally posted by Vassago:
This is not a flame. I dont know why there is a flame thing in front of the post but Im kind of insulted.

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Vassago,

That flame icon appearsin front of any post that has more than 12 replys. Nuthin' you said.

Actually, after giving that last reply a good read and a good bit of thought I've realised just how true that is.

-One of the best posts I have read in a while mattey (well done)

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*Hidden-Danjer* -Top english geezer

posted 07-11-2000 01:12 AM            

I would also add the subtext that i picked you to have a date with over everyone else that i know. HINT Pick date in the relatively distant future (2 weeks from the day you call for the date).

posted 07-11-2000 11:16 PM               

I would also add the subtext that i picked you to have a date with over everyone else that i know. HINT Pick date in the relatively distant future (2 weeks from the day you call for the date).

++++I would go a step further and plan the date within 2-3 days from the day you call. You gotta hit the iron while its hot!

posted 07-12-2000 01:50 AM               

I want her to feel as if she can be comfortable around me, and one way to do that is show her your not whoring yourself around.

If your a big time playa go ahead and phone 3 days later, follow the crowd and watch yourself crash and burn. If you want to prove to a woman that you find her more special than the rest do what you think is right and phone the next day.

posted 07-12-2000 08:04 AM               

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Originally posted by Devlar:
I will call a woman the day after i meet her, i'm not a playa and i sure as hell don't want to be.

I want her to feel as if she can be comfortable around me, and one way to do that is show her your not whoring yourself around.

If your a big time playa go ahead and phone 3 days later, follow the crowd and watch yourself crash and burn. If you want to prove to a woman that you find her more special than the rest do what you think is right and phone the next day.

Romantic #1
The Devlar

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Hi Devlar, i think AD is right, we guys should'nt call them too soon cuz they will think we are "nice guys", it's our sentence of death. Believe me man, i've met this girl on the net and she gave me her # as if she was testing me, the very next day i called her and stayed on the phone alot, i think i've ****ed my chances badly by doing that. The later the better, otherwise she will think you have no one in your life, she will think that you are very easy and offer no challenge to her. The pledge is one of a truly DJ.

posted 07-12-2000 06:05 PM            

You call a MINIMUM of four days.

Your only calling days are monday, tuesday, wednesday. NEVER call thursday thru sunday. She will have made plans for the week end. Trips, aunts flying in, etc.

This is simple. If you get a number on your calling days call the FOLLOWING week. If you get a number on THURS thru SATURDAY call the FOLLOWING week. If you get a number on sunday, call wednesday. Wednesday is only three days but you probably won't get many numbers on that day.
This is not science. It is an art.

Planning your calls is good for you because it teaches you to SLOW DOWN.
The slower you go in dating the easier it is to AVOID the traps. You know the saying, 'fools rush in'.

The girl will wait if she truely likes you. If she gets mad, this is good. You find out who is a b***h and who is not.

About getting off the phone fast. Your purpose for calling is NOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION! It is to SET UP a date. Say 'this is Anjo, we met at the Joe's Place. Let's do dinner on saturday. I'll pick you up at 8:00PM. What's your address?.'

After you get the address, say 'That's great. See you saturday. Goodnight.'And HANG UP.

You are not being RUDE! You are giving her a date and she is LUCKY she got one from you. Why? Because you had two other girls to choose from!

posted 07-12-2000 08:14 PM            

What you really mean has it ever failed? Like anything else it doesn't always work.

Here are two failures:

I called one womean after four days and she said she was sick and didn't think she would be well enough for saturday. I called seven days later and she said her daughter was coming home from college and wanted to spend time with her. I decided to break my rule about two calls and called a third time one week later.

She said she was going on a trip to Florida with her girlfriend. It was all true. We were introduced by a friend. Her plans were made months ago.

She never said 'how about next tuesday' or offered another day. So I judged her interest level to be very low. I NEVER CALLED BACK.

About two weeks later she called and left this message: John, it's Nancy, I'm Baaaaaaacckkkkkkk!. I never laughed so hard in my life.

So you see nothing is perfect.

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I called another woman after four days and said "let's see a movie saturday". She said 'I have to be in the MOOD for a movie.'. I gave her a chance (because normally I don't accept a changed date.) I found her to be BORING and dropped her after two dates.

It didn't work several times BUT I DIDN'T GET STUCK with women who weren't interested. So in a way I WON the battle. Most guys would have hung in there pulling their hair out.

Other than that I have had not many problems.

Is that good enought for a field report Vassago? I bet you thought I wouldn't tell you about it NOT WORKING. He,he,he!!! So there!