posted 06-10-2000 10:44 AM            

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.

A Don Juan always waits four or more days before calling a girl. She must wait.

A Don Juan never arranges a date face-to-face with a girl. He always calls first. She must wait and wonder about him.

He sees a girl ONLY once a week for the first three weeks. He has to 'clear' his dates with other women. Or pretend he is busy with other women. He says he is busy if she wants more.

A Don Juan never gives flowers, cards, or gifts for the first two months. Her birthday is the only exception .

He never talks over an hour with a women on the phone. EVER. Twenty minutes is tops. He avoids contact with her. With e-mails and messages, etc. between dates. He calls once to arrange the next date.

During the first three months he tells her NOTHING about himself. She has to ask. When asked, he gives only tiny itty bitty pieces.

He waits for her to say 'I love you' first. Then he knows she really means it.

A Don Juan never says 'I love you' before two months. Ever.

A Don Juan NEVER proposes before six months. He prefers to wait one year. All minor flaws must be seen.

A Don Juan never lives with a women. He is a free man. He will marry the BEST when he meets her.

A Don Juan only FOCUSES on the romantic side of a women. He knows long talks lead to friendship not LOVE. He knows being a mystery fascinates her and makes her WONDER and WANT him.

And lastly, a true Don Juan
makes sure the relationship is 50-50. HALF of the time she is doing what HE wants to do. He feels this in his stomach. Not head.

posted 06-10-2000 11:33 AM            

Thanks.

But it also means you CAN'T BRAG. Guess what? Women love that!

She: What kind of car do you have?

You: It's foreign.

She: Who makes it?

You: It's a two door.

She: What's the darn name?!

You: Oh all right. You sure ask alot of questions. It's a Porsche.

She: (impressed) Oh!

posted 06-10-2000 12:52 PM            

Great post A-D, I think I've learned more useful **** here than in all my years of schooling

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posted 06-10-2000 01:24 PM            

Thanks.

But VIOLATE THEM AT YOUR OWN RISK!

posted 06-10-2000 01:25 PM            

This is how you PROTECT your heart.

posted 06-10-2000 01:48 PM            

Thanks. Modify it to fit your life style and personality.

posted 06-11-2000 01:41 AM            

girls aint that dumb they know we just want the pannies in a hurry. they rarely get to have good conversation with men because men aint skilled in this area

the things that you are describing is "game" and yes you need some game, but i truly believe the following;

"He asks for a girl's phone number when he FIRST meets or sees her. Not one month later."
1. don't ask her for her number, give her yours- if she is with it she will call - it also shows you have some type of confidence to leave the ball in her court

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.
2.doing #1 will eliminate your second point

A Don Juan always waits four or more days before calling a girl. She must wait.
3. it will also eliminate your third point

A Don Juan never arranges a date face-to-face with a girl. He always calls first. She must wait and wonder about him.
4. i agree, wait to set a date

He sees a girl ONLY once a week for the first three weeks. He has to 'clear' his dates with other women. Or pretend he is busy with other women. He says he is busy if she wants more.
5. i think that until you have that girl wrapped up and secure that you dont only see her once a week because until she wants only you- than she will still be open to others and while you see her that one day a week, I'm creepin in the other days

A Don Juan never gives flowers, cards, or gifts for the first two months. Her birthday is the only exception .
6.that sounds coo

He never talks over an hour with a women on the phone. EVER. Twenty minutes is tops. He avoids contact with her. With e-mails and messages, etc.between dates. He calls once to arrange the next date.
6. i think this is a huge mistake. answer this "how does a pimp get hoes, how can a man make a woman sell her body" and the answer is conversation. if you are a good talker/listener you can have any broad you want. women LLLOOOVVVEE to talk and if you deny her that, she will satisfy that natural urge somewhere else

During the first three months he tells her NOTHING about himself. She has to ask. When asked, he gives only tiny itty bitty pieces
7.mystery, thats coo

He waits for her to say 'I love you' first. Then he knows she really means it
8. yeah that is coo too

A Don Juan never says 'I love you' before two months. Ever.
9. if even that soon

A Don Juan NEVER proposes before six months. He prefers to wait one year. All minor flaws must be seen.
10. i believe even a year is too soon

A Don Juan never lives with a women. He is a free man. He will marry the BEST when he meets her.
11. TOTALLY DISAGREE!! Don't just shack up wit any ol broad but if it is marrying the best that you are tryna do, than you better live with her ass before you even think about marriage. i have lived with broads before and i swear to you it is a totally different ballgame once you live with them, than it is when you don't. you better test them waters before you decide to be thinkin bout marriage. human nature makes you always want to do something and then once you do it or get what you want then you see it aint what you thought, and in this case if you are talkin bout a girl you better be sure.

A Don Juan only FOCUSES on the romantic side of a women. He knows long talks lead to friendship not LOVE. He knows being a mystery fascinates her and makes her WONDER and WANT him.
12. i say a true DJ knows that women 100% of the time will tell you that a friend is what they want. they want to be friends before lovers, so hell yeah i want her to think i am her friend

And lastly, a true Don Juan makes sure the relationship is 50-50. HALF of the time she is doing what HE wants to do. He feels this in his stomach. Not head.
13. coo

these are just my opinions, it is what has worked for me. I believe Anti-Dump has used his and it worked for him, it's all good.

posted 06-11-2000 10:17 AM            

Now I can't believe u gave out that kinda priceless information out 4 free!

Man, that was probably ur best post eva and I definitly think it is Hall-of-fame material.

But I'll like 2 enhance your getting the digits section:

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Originally posted by Anti-Dump:
THE PERFECT DON JUAN
He asks for a girl's phone number when he FIRST meets or sees her. Not one month later.

He always asks for the HOME phone number. He walks away if he doesn't get it.

AD

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ok, I don't think a dj should ask a girl 4 her # but instead should demand it.

[U]The following dialogue is wrong[/U]:

Girl: whoa ur sexy.....blah,blah,blah

Ryan: umm...may I have ur # please? (notice how I appear like an AFC)

Girl: I don't think that will be neccessary.

[U]The following dialogue is correct[/U]:

Girl: whoa ur sexy......blah,blah,blah

Ryan: umm....I'm kinda late(looking at my watch) give me your # so I can get back 2 u (notice the assertiveness )

Girl: oh ...here it is, 123456

(u c I have put pressure on her b/c I'm "late" and I'm demanding the # so there will be a very little chance of her saying no )

Ryan: ok I gotta jet, I call u as soon as I can.

(I know thius makes me sound kinda desperate but I only call her 5 days after; she'll be thinking: I wonder Y he is so busy b/c he said he'll call me as soon as he could
....I hope I can get a piece of his sausage )

Anyway, AD u definately got ur sh*t 2gether and that post could be included in 1 of Allen's textbooks

Hey!, Do u really drive a porsche?

Your Homeboy,
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~R*Y*A*N~

"I have run out of ways to fail; now I can only succeed!!!"

posted 06-11-2000 10:49 AM            

Low Self Esteem,

You don't give a girl your number if you can avoid it. Women only use your number to CANCEL dates. Not hook up.

I feel if you move right in with a women during the first three months the mystery is killed and it's impossible for her to fall in love. Most live-in relationships last only 18 months. The average marriage that fails is five years. You be the judge.
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Ryan,

You are right. Only a weak man says 'may I pretty please have your number . Is that O.K.?"

Porsche? No, that was a example. I was trying to show if you really have something to brag about you must keep to to yourself like everything else.
I drive a Ford. He,he,he!!!

AD

posted 06-11-2000 11:56 AM            

Anyway, I'm closing in for this girl... We've been going out (not really dates, just hang around) for about 2 or 3 times. However, I see that I've violated some of the Rules:
1. I gave her a box of chocolate on the third outing (I work in a choc company and I got a box free from my boss);
2. Now I realize, that these past days I've made myself 'too' available for her... I send her e-mails everyday, I'm trying to ask her out 2 times last week (once succesful, once not), I showed too much interest in her when I'm with her..
3. I asked her to watch a movie when I just get her home after our 3rd outing (and she answered by telling me that she'd be very busy next week, but she'd call me if she'd some times).

Well... Now I kinda have the feeling that her LOI is decreasing... Do you think the situation is still salvageable?

posted 06-11-2000 05:29 PM            

And yes i would not move in that soon (first 3 months) i agree that could affect things bad, but if you are talkin bout really getting serious with her and marriage and stuff then i feel you need to see how you get along with her before you commit to that.

posted 06-11-2000 06:39 PM            

When I ask a girl for her number I know INSTANTLY, right THEN, if she is interested. When you give a girl YOUR number you will be waiting around for days or weeks to find out if she is interested. Why on earth would you want to wait around for a call? I find out right away.

I have never given out my number. But research I have done says this: very, VERY few women call you back this way.

Why would you WAIT to see if she's interested, when you could find out INSTANTLY? Please reply.

posted 06-11-2000 06:48 PM            

I used to give my number out to girls(sometimes I still do). They call but I am waiting for them. I would probably be a better Don Juan with your method.

posted 06-11-2000 06:50 PM            

Now go out and RULE the chicks!

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Wondering man,

Too much interest. Cut it, PLEASE!

posted 06-11-2000 09:52 PM            

i don't care that much if she calls me or not, and i believe that it is that type of attitude that most dudes dont have. they take it personally when a chick doesn't call, they have to have the chick call to make themselves feel good or worthwile.

if she chose not to call till days or weeks later, i don't care, i have not been holding my breath- and at the same time every other guy is comin at her tryna hit her up for her number, i just leave it to her whether she wants to call or not.

i learned somthing from a 42 year old crack fiend once-he told me just be yourself because at the end of the day the chick is gonna choose who she wants, not who wants her.
i have been to parties where i have seen my friends do their best to talk to, impress, read, and pick up girls and the end result is that she wants someone else.

i put myself out there and then leave it up to the chick to respond.

just to be fair and to tell the truth i don't do this 100% of the time, it depends.

posted 06-12-2000 07:00 AM            

You tha man bro!

You should have change the title of your post to "The DON JUAN CODE", "The DON JUAN DISCIPLINE" or "The DON JUAN WAY". Either way your post good and straight to the point. I know and some us know practically know some of the points and principles of the "The DON JUAN DISCLIPLINE", but you did a good job mixing and putting everything into one hoopla. Anyway, from now on, this post should be the "CODE OF THE (any)DON JUAN" in here, including me We should follow it strictly like the BUSHIDO CODE (the code of the samurai), only code would be much more rewarding! It takes DISCIPLINE to be a DJ. Coz, when you get DISCIPLINE, you get CONTROL, and when you get CONTROL, you get to be GOOD in ANYTHING, including DEALING and HANDLING WOMEN(hehehehe!). All the best ladies man out there wasn't born a ladies man!, they have MAKE THEMSELVES into a LADIES MAN. It took them KNOWLEDGE,(a lot of)PRACTICE, EXPERIENCE and DISCIPLINE to make themselves a HOT STUFF to women, right! You know im right!
So to me this post should be our "DON JUAN CODE!", right AD!
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Regarless to Low SELF-ESTEEM man!
You made a good a point on "LIVE-IN" thing but if your not that serious w/ that person then you should not live w/ her! If you live w/ her she will start to get to know ALL of YOU! If she get to know ALL OF YOU(The good and the bad) she will lose some interest in you! This is where the "MYSTERY" thing sets in! Love just like somewhat like SUCCESS i guess is in your STATE IN YOUR MIND. If you want to attact or SEDUCE a person, BE MYSTERIOUS! NOT TOO MYSTERIOUS, just be a bit mysterious. You don't show or tell her everything! Instead of showing or telling her everything about YOURSELF, you just LEAVE everything into her IMAGINATION. That's where everything sets in!
And to the GETTING the "PHONE NUMBER" thing, you can give the phone number and wait or you ASK for her NUMBER and let her WAIT! If you gave her number, who does the waiting? Of course, YOU! And who do you think is in the "POSITION of POWER", of course, HER! because SHE has the CHOICE and the OPTION 'to CALL' or 'to NOT TO CALL', and when you have the CHOICE, YOU have the CONTROL, heck, YOU ARE IN CONTROL!!! And obviously you are NOT, so next time don't give her your number. You can EXCHANGE NUMBERS(which is a good compromise, at least you'll have her number) and You can NEVER,as in NEVER just give your number! She'll either forget about it, throw it away, or leave that paper into dust in her bag! PERIOD!

-PENZILLA

posted 06-12-2000 07:42 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Anti-Dump:
Wondering man,

Too much interest. Cut it, PLEASE!

AD

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AD,
By this do you mean that I stop the effort with this girl, or that I should slow down but continue targetting her?

posted 06-12-2000 12:12 PM            

"A Don Juan always waits four or more days before calling a girl. She must wait."

1. Just a word of precaution. If a guy doesn't call me within a few days, then I just think he's not interested and forget about him. Of course that is just me.

He sees a girl ONLY once a week for the first three weeks. He has to 'clear' his dates with other women. Or pretend he is busy with other women. He says he is busy if she wants more.

2. Of course the girl might be doing the same thing, and finds another guy while your busy being busy, who isn't "busy" .

Anyways, good luck fellas.

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Love is stronger than pride

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posted 06-12-2000 05:58 PM            

to me, the problem with what yall are talkin here is that you are thinking like men. i'm over here studying and thinking like a broad and i've started to learn how they think (only on some issues, cuz if i knew how they thought all the time i would be a trillionaire)

to penzilla-that is what i'm tryna say-if i give a chick my # she does not have me waiting. she can not make me wait because i am more interested in tryna see if my mom called me today. I love my mom i care how she feels and what is going on with her, i could give a sh*t if some girl i just met and know nothin about decides to call me or not. the biggest mistake guys make is that they are trying so hard they are not seeing things clearly-haven't yall ever paid attention to the things women say.
look, this is why we are all here to learn a bit more about how to get girls, how to act, and to share experiences. when was the last time you guys read cosmo or one of the top chick magazines, you prolly don't but the chick you are tryna get prolly does-how can you possibly know what a girl wants if you know nothing about their thought process-

Penzilla I can not understand what yall are sayin by: you can never give a girl your number she will either forget about it, throw it away or whatever---when was the last time you threw away a girls number or forgot about it, i guarantee if you have ever done it-it was because you was not interested in her and that is when a chick will throw away your number, when she is not interested-if she aint interested than i dont wanna talk to her

and as far as her having the choice and the option to call, you guys make it sound like she is not supposed to have a choice-like she is required to call since you approached her. it's all in the conversation maybe you guys picture giving your number to a girl as weak because you did not go for the kill and GET the number-but it's all in the conversation you could be wearing a pink leotard and still make a girl respect and want you based on your conversation

posted 06-12-2000 06:06 PM            

you surely have a point here, but I have to agree with antidump; because there are also girls out there who are not that decisive; they might have mixed feelings for you; now with antidumps methods you will surely miss out on some of them; BUT you will never get your hurt badly :-D and that's something, now isnt it?